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S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st

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\(s^2 + t^2 < 1-2st\)


Quantity A
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T
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Re: Manhattan Prep GRE Algebra Question S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 05 Jul 2016, 23:37
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Any help on the following question would be greatly appreciated. It is a question from the Manhattan Prep GRE Algebra Book.

s^2 + t^2 < 1-2st

Quantity A:
1-S

Quantity B:
t



We have

\(s^2 + t^2 < 1-2st\) addind 2st on both sides

\(s^2 + t^2 +2st < 1-2st +2st\)

\((s + t)^2< 1\) or \(s + t <1\) or \(t< 1-s\)

Hence option Option A is correct.


Now both s and t can be negative quantities. like -10 and -100 respectively. So A is greater.

Or one of them can be negative and other positive such that they satisfy the above in equality s=2 t= -2.5.

Both of them are positive fractions s=99/100 t= 9/1000. Still Quantity A is greater.
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Re: S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 06 Jul 2016, 00:50
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Please use the rh rules for posting

  • a proper title for the question
  • using the tags to identify it
  • well formatted in its text
  • adding the OA

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Re: S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 06 Jul 2016, 10:45
Hi Sandy,
Thanks for your respond. I was a little confused.

In the solution below you said that:

(s + t)^2< 1 or s + t <1 or t< 1-s

How would that be possible since there are two (s+t) and anything plugged into them would result in a positive number.
(s + t)^2< 1 = (s+t) (s+t) < 1

If you to plug in negative quantities for s and t can, like -10 and -100 respectively. you will get a positive number. For example,
S = -10 T = -100
(-10+ -100) ( -10 + -100) = -110 * -110 = 12100

Please advise, for some reason I keep getting this question wrong.
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Re: S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 06 Jul 2016, 14:40
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You cannot choose any value for s and t.


|s+t| has to be less than 1.

That is a constraint so if you put s= 10 then t= -10.99999999..... or -9.000000000000001 or something like that.

Note that s and t are not independent. They are constrained. Hence they must follow |s+t| < 1.

If you put any value that just means that there are no constraints.

You cannot substitute "any" value.
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Re: S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 29 Aug 2017, 04:56
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\(s^2 + t^2 < 1-2st\)


Quantity A
Quantity B
1 - s
t


First notice that we have a perfect square, (s + t)², "hiding" in the given inequality. The perfect square is in the form s² + 2st + t²
Here's what I mean:

Given: s² + t² < 1 - 2st
Add 2st to both sides to get: s² + 2st + t² < 1
Factor the left side: (s + t)² < 1

IMPORTANT: If (something)² < 1, then it must be the case that -1 < something < 1
Since we now know that (s + t)² < 1, we can say that -1 < s + t < 1

Given:
Quantity A: 1 - s
Quantity B: t

Add s to both sides to get:
Quantity A: 1
Quantity B: s + t

Since -1 < s + t < 1, we can conclude that Quantity A is greater.

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Re: S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 23 Aug 2018, 17:43
Hi Brent, can you explain why " If (something)² < 1, then it must be the case that -1 < something < 1"?
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Re: S^2 + T^2 < 1-2st [#permalink] New post 23 Aug 2018, 23:28
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Hi Brent, can you explain why " If (something)² < 1, then it must be the case that -1 < something < 1"?


Let me try. It is because square, square root and absolute value go hand in hand. Let's say we have A^2=B, A can be any value, but B must be >=0 (i.e. non-negative, or positive inclusion of zero). We can rewrite it as A= + or - square root of B, which means any number under square root is >=0. In turn, if we are given square root of B = A, then B must be non-negative, so to make sure it satisfies this, we absolute value B => if we square both side, we get absolute value of B=A^2. In case of inequality, we have absolute value of B < A^2. And we have our familiar inequality: absolute value of B < A^2 <=> -A^2 < B < A^2.
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