Another approach is to use the Double Matrix Method. This technique can be used for most questions featuring a population in which each member has two characteristics associated with it (aka overlapping sets questions).
Here, we have a population of students, and the two characteristics are:
- took algebra or did NOT take algebra
- took chemistry or did NOT take chemistry

Note: the TOTAL population is 236 students.
If 142 students took algebra, then the remaining 94 students did NOT take algebra (236 - 142 = 94).
Also, If 121 students took chemistry, then the remaining 115 students did NOT take chemistry (236 - 121 = 115).

Let's add all of this to our diagram to get...



What is the greatest possible number of students that could have taken both algebra and chemistry?
So, what's the biggest number we can place in the starred box below?


Well, we can't place a number greater than 121 in that box, since the two boxes in the left-hand column (took Chem) must add to 121
So, the biggest number we can place in the starred box is 121
When we do this, we get the following diagram:



So, the answer to the question is 121

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Solution



To solve this problem you want the greatest possible value of x. It is clear from the diagram that x cannot be greater than 142 nor greater than 121, otherwise or would be negative. Hence, x must be less than or 142−x 121−x equal to 121. Since there is no information to exclude the correct x=121,

Answer is \(121\).

why cant it be 27?

Because the question asks for the greatest possible number of students. It is only possible if the set of students who took chemistry class is a subset of the set of students who took algebra as well. This basically means that all the students who took chemistry also took algebra, but all the students who took algebra didn't necessarily take chemistry.

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Cos the question doesnot mention the number of students who DID NOT take both these classes.

If it were mentioned that all the 236 students took only among these 2 subjects, 27 would've
been the answer.

Hope that helps, albeit old thread.

Question: In a graduating class of 236 students, 142 took algebra and 121 took chemistry. What is the greatest possible number of students that could have taken both algebra and chemistry?

The book gives the answer as 121, with the explanation that It is clear the number of students who took both cannot exceed 121 or 142, therefore the answer is 121.

How is this possible if there are a total of 236 students? The question did not state that there were students that didn't take either class, does anyone else feel that this question is a little unfair?

Please, could you edit the question according to the rules of the board here rules-for-posting-please-read-this-before-posting-1083.html

and the template qq-how-to-post-a-gre-question-the-easy-way-2357.html

This would helps a lot other students looking at the question.

Thank you for your collaboration

Hi Bret, quick question. At first I tried to solve this problem using the two items formula (group A + group B - both + neither = total). I made neither 0 to maximize the both value. This gave me 27, which is the wrong answer. I then solved this problem using the double matrix method and that gave me the right answer, 121. Two questions, what is the difference between these two methods? Are they used for different types of problems? And secondly, why didn’t the first approach, the two items formula, yield the right answer? Thank you in advance.

The difference between the formula approach and the Double Matrix approach is that the Matrix approach always works, whereas the formula approach works in certain circumstances.
Having said that, we can still use the formula approach here:

Formula: group A + group B - both + neither = total

We get: 142 + 121 - both + neither = 236

In order to maximize the value of BOTH we must first maximize the value of NEITHER.
We already know that 142 students took algebra.
236 - 142 = 94
So, 94 is the maximum value of NEITHER

We get: 142 + 121 - both + 94 = 236
From here, when we solve, we get: BOTH = 121

Does that help?

Cheers,
Brent
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I did it by making a table and got 121
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I agree with this. If there are 121 students is the answer who took Chemistry and Algebra both, then in that case there are 21 students who exclusively took only Algebra and the total doesn't add up to 236. The question hasn't mentioned anything about students not taking either....so should we assume it?

There's no reason to assume that there are zero students taking neither class.

Here's another official question: https://greprepclub.com/forum/qotd-11-o ... -2660.html
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